When you see this happening, you just know that big insurance has already won the battle. Health care reform in Amerikkka is a pipe dream. Joe Bageant tried to help me understand why so many vote against their own self-interest, but I still don’t get it. I mean, these people are so misinformed that they think that a public health care plan will break the bank, while attacking innocent nations overseas (i.e., revenge, the most evil of evils) is good for us (and doesn’t seem to have a fiscal implication in their minds). Me, I think I’ll move back to Canada (or maybe Venezuela) where there is still a semblance of sanity.
Richard Jehn / The Rag Blog
Thousands Protest Health Care Plan
By Nafeesa Syeed / September 12, 2009
WASHINGTON – Thousands of people marched to the U.S. Capitol on Saturday, carrying signs with slogans such as “Obamacare makes me sick” as they protested the president’s health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.
The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency. People were chanting “enough, enough” and “We the People.” Others yelled “You lie, you lie!” and “Pelosi has to go,” referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
Demonstrators waved U.S. flags and held signs reading “Go Green Recycle Congress” and “I’m Not Your ATM.” Men wore colonial costumes as they listened to speakers who warned of “judgment day” — Election Day 2010.
Richard Brigle, 57, a Vietnam War veteran and former Teamster, came from Paw Paw, Mich. He said health care needs to be reformed — but not according to President Barack Obama’s plan.
“My grandkids are going to be paying for this. It’s going to cost too much money that we don’t have,” he said while marching, bracing himself with a wooden cane as he walked.
FreedomWorks Foundation, a conservative organization led by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, organized several groups from across the country for what they billed as a “March on Washington.”
Organizers say they built on momentum from the April “tea party” demonstrations held nationwide to protest tax policies, along with growing resentment over the economic stimulus packages and bank bailouts.
Many protesters said they paid their own way to the event — an ethic they believe should be applied to the government. They say unchecked spending on things like a government-run health insurance option could increase inflation and lead to economic ruin.
Terri Hall, 45, of Starke, Fla., said she felt compelled to become political for the first time this year because she was upset by government spending.
“Our government has lost sight of the powers they were granted,” she said. She added that the deficit spending was out of control, and said she thought it was putting the country at risk.
Norman Kennedy, 64, of Charleston, S.C., said he wants to send a message to federal lawmakers that America is “deeply in debt.” He said though he’d like everyone to have free health care, he said there’s no money to pay for it.
“We want change and we’re going to get change,” Kennedy said. “I want to see fiscal responsibility and if that means changing Congress that will be a means to that end.”
Other sponsors of the rally include the Heartland Institute, Americans for Tax Reform and the Ayn Rand Center for Individuals Rights.
Copyright 2009 The Associated Press.
Source / America On Line
Except where would this money come from? Also what about the issues that are still there in a government run/paid heath care.
Except that you seemed to be caught up in political trash talk to really try to look at this issue.
Also why did you come back from Canada?
Hey, this verbal spat between Masterspork and RDJ, is getting tiring – can we end it, please?
I see RDJ hasn't replied yet, but it's not helping to have this continued ire that really tires out the regular readers of the Rag Blog.
not quite a spoon, not quite a fork. which is it master, are you spoon fed, or a fork head?
Richard,
This HuffPost piece contains answers to some of your questions:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glenn-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html
I have to disagree with that, I mean to me most of these people are concerned about how much money this is going to cost also the fact that there are some issues of health care that throwing money at will not solve.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=14322
Dear Anonymous — so what’s not to like about the verbal sparring between the pork guy and our Canadian refugee? You don’t have to read the comments to read the blog, so why hush up debate? Let ’em argue; we know the Rag blog will draw the line at personal flaming and ads for Chinese pornography sites and delete any really offensive posts. If you don’t want to read it, there’s lots more to read on the Rag Blog; I never quite catch up myself!
Isn’t dialog what blogs are all about? Perhaps ‘anonymous’ should take up knitting or painting.
Jehn fails to address ANY fact based challenges to his opinions. His beliefs, IMO, are simply based on personal phylosophy, opinion and like minded friends / websites liberally (pun intented) sprinkled with conspiracies, racism, partisanship and ‘progressive’ nonsense.
Let’s get real: The Obama Regime makes drunken sailors look like miserly widows. The money isn’t there, we’re already borrowing over a Trillion/year just to stay in place and our existing goverment health programs are going over the cliff. Most proponents of ‘Obamacare’ expect to get something for free. The rest of us who are expected to pay the bill are fed up with all the irresponsible red ink.
A real question: Who’s o.k. with shifting Union healthcare obligations to the taxpayer?
When China stops lending and the rich are taxed into poverty, who will fund our ‘dependent society’?
To quote John Stossel in what he would like to hear Obama say:
“Members of Congress, I ask you to address our fiscal emergency.
We liberals meant well when we created Medicare, but, unfortunately, this was the height of fiscal irresponsibility. This Ponzi scheme worked for a while. But then more people had the nerve to live longer. Now there is no way that there will be enough workers to pay the Medicare benefits that we politicians have promised. Medicare is a scam. We politicians should be ashamed of what we promised.
We locked up Bernie Madoff for less.
Therefore, today I apologize for defending the health-care absurd bills that have emerged from your committees—proposals that would add trillions of dollars of additional debt to an already unsustainable system.
Only the vitality of the private sector—a truly free one, unencumbered by the crippling stranglehold of burdensome government regulation—can lift America out of the unsustainable mess that we liberals created.
Therefore, I propose complete deregulation of medicine and health insurance….”
It is certain that deregulation of medicine and health insurance will have the same fine effects that it did for the financial industry. Yes, let’s improve the entire system with moronic suggestions from the frothing right-wing cretins.
Ouch – it’s too hot for me in this ‘kitchen’ – way too much to assimilate; dissect, and offer anything that I consider safe and sane………